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some expressed beliefs

12/20/09

in a “have your say” page, the bbc asked:

What do you think of the global climate deal?

The UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon has welcomed a US-backed climate deal in Copenhagen as an “essential beginning”. Do you think the agreement represents a fair deal for smaller countries?

here are some responses in which people write on their belief/disbelief of global warming. interestingly (and disturbingly, as far as i’m concerned), the “most recommended” responses  are those that deny global warming or claim it as a political conspiracy…

Added: Sunday, 20 December, 2009, 03:56 GMT 03:56 UK

The climate deal is of little or no consequence. The climate change is direct proof f the nearing of last day of judgement which is inevitable.

Shazib Khan, Lahore, Pakistan

Added: Sunday, 20 December, 2009, 03:45 GMT 03:45 UK

This weather is probably God’s way of telling us that He is in control, and not man. What greater irony than this (especially with the meetings happening in Copenhagen)?

N F, Alberta, Canada

Recommended by 0 people

Added: Sunday, 20 December, 2009, 03:26 GMT 03:26 UK

Human caused “global warming ” is a fraud.

Solar activity is key – and we have zero impact on that.

Should the earth warm up, it will do more good than harm. We in north America could be under glaciers. That would be a problem.

Charles Calhoun, White Plains, NY

Recommended by 1 person

Added: Sunday, 20 December, 2009, 03:11 GMT 03:11 UK

In addition what depresses me is those who think that man is not influencing climate change keep bringing up things that have been answered or refuted – as a simple information search would show – it would be like someone bringing up H&S myths as facts. Dangerously close to lying.

[michellegrand], Alton, United Kingdom

Recommended by 1 person

Added: Sunday, 20 December, 2009, 24:15 GMT 00:15 UK

Sprited leaders from small countries like President of Maldive put up a splendid performance & much better than leaders of major polluting nations. It is very obvious that those self-serving leaders have joined the ranks of U.S Evangelist to wait for resurrection of Jesus to clean up the earth!

Sid, Delhi

Recommended by 3 people

Added: Saturday, 19 December, 2009, 13:02 GMT 13:02 UK

Regardless of whether global warming exists or not, and regardless of man’s influence, we live on a planet of finite resources and should use those wisely.

Its a bit like giving everyone a patch of soil, and a “chunk of energy” to use as they wish. You can boil a kettle in 3 minutes or drive to the local shop, up to you.

People are used to doing both, and its a problem.

Now what one needs are products that use “nothing” to run them.

Reduction of emissions should be bi-product

[twyfordshanks]

Recommended by 31 people

Added: Saturday, 19 December, 2009, 12:59 GMT 12:59 UK

This deal is a joke, it is farcical. Top scientists are even skeptic. The ones that seem to be adamant are politicians who know nothing, and scientist working for the politicians..seems like a political stunt to me.

Why is evidence based on projectory and natural weather shifts.. nature always changes its course… so i was told till copenhagen summit, now i believe it is my fault. a famous economist said.. “man’s potential in saving the world would be equivalent to saving one cow”

Concerned Brit, London

Recommended by 22 people

Added: Saturday, 19 December, 2009, 12:56 GMT 12:56 UK

I think we common folk are being lied to.
If the world was at stake due to emissions, don’t you think even wealthy countries like US would be truly concerned?

There’s a problem all right & it’s far worse than climate change. Namely, the earth’s crust is shifting. It’s happened before & it’s about to happen again. The crust-shift will rid the planet of its surplus population while the elite watch from safe retreats, pondering the inheritance of the entire earth (as Gods).

Regina-Gabrielle Berry, Toronto, Canada

Recommended by 8 people

Added: Saturday, 19 December, 2009, 12:08 GMT 12:08 UK

I am very glad that the copenhagen conference has failed.I really think it is time that the BBC started looking at the opinions of the thousands of real scientists who disagree with the ‘consensus’ view do none of your journalists ever get on the net and look at the real science? Remember, consensus has no place in science..and despite rising CO2 levels even the ‘adjusted’ temperatures show NO warming this century..this proves the computer models are wrong as are all the outlandish forecasts

hickman, dover

Recommended by 7 people

Added: Saturday, 19 December, 2009, 12:02 GMT 12:02 UK

I agree with hundreds of scientists all over the world who are never heard in the media who have found that global warming is a myth and has no scientific basis.

Nicholas Dyson, Letchworth

Recommended by 14 people

Added: Saturday, 19 December, 2009, 12:40 GMT 12:40 UK

My reaction ,a load of face saving political spin. With all the facts and truth that has surfaced in recent weeks this face saving maneuver is the first big nail in the coffin of AGW.
“I have sworn on the altar of god,eternal hostility against every form of tyranny against the mind of man” Thomas Jefferson
Truth shall prevail over propaganda,the alarmist warmist brainwashing of our children shall not be forgotten. Gettinggrumpier

wayne job, broadford

Recommended by 10 people

Added: Saturday, 19 December, 2009, 12:38 GMT 12:38 UK

Global warming Deal and Britain Paralysed by snowfalls before Christmas.

Two swallows don’t make a Summer, and could well be coincidence. The same is true for many situations. Scientific evidence is sound only when unshakable in every concievable way.

There is great doubt that the evidence for the Global warming argument is sound or complete, let alone tested or proven.

Politics and science are vastly different. Politicians Talk, that’s all they do. The Deal is meaningless.

[twyfordshanks]

Recommended by 4 people

Added: Saturday, 19 December, 2009, 12:31 GMT 12:31 UK

All the climate change deniers obtain most of their information from the media. If instead they started reading the actual science papers (1,000s of them) then they would reach the same conclusion as EVERY scientific institute in the world. It is only individuals who question manmade climate change. There are thousands of science institutes and yet not one supports the deniers. You either trust the newspapers or you trust the scientists. Controversy sells papers – don’t forget this.

G Walker, UK

Recommended by 23 people

Added: Saturday, 19 December, 2009, 12:31 GMT 12:31 UK

Its a start
Global warming /climate change is a reality ..we are accelerating natural change
I want t my Grandchildren to have a future
I want my grandchildrens future decided by common sense and best safe not sorry

And NOT decided by the Top gear hedonists and Tabloid bigots who are scared their here and now live today pay tomorrow gluttony and jet set life is at risk
Fact is the oil and gas will run out and history will weep at what we wasted burnt up for tatty baubles and fun

tiger moth, stoke

Recommended by 24 people

Added: Saturday, 19 December, 2009, 12:31 GMT 12:31 UK

“I say it again. The left consist of two obsessive compulsions. Fascist dictatorship and total anarchy. Gee, how would that dichotomy not bind things up..”

Dear pen pal, USA

Dear pen pal, I would prescribe for you less Glenn Beck, less Hannity and less O’Reilly. Fascism is a right wing impulse, not left wing. Think Franco, Mussolini and Hitler. True, they made the trains run on time but freedom for me means not being obliged to salute your own flag every day.

Love and kisses.

Zippy, Bush

Recommended by 5 people

Added: Saturday, 19 December, 2009, 12:07 GMT 12:07 UK

I’ve no doubt that the climate is detrimentally being affected by human activity and that it’s essential to do something to help reduce the effects.

This includes procreating at a much slower rate and religions need to get wise to that.

What has been semi agreed in Copenhagen will probably make little more difference than Kyoto did.

What was the carbon footprint of this conference?

Do these huge summits actually make a difference?

I fear it’s all a load of hot air…

Jon Storr, Wales, United Kingdom

Recommended by 4 people

Added: Saturday, 19 December, 2009, 12:00 GMT 12:00 UK

Why do people make snide comments that developing countries resisting the current Copenhagen deal are just holding out for more money? Pacific Islanders value their land as home, not as a commercial exercise! Coastlines are eroding, seasons and weather patterns are changing, in other parts of the world glaciers are melting – we in the small island countries may be the first to be affected by rising sea levels, but in the end everyone will suffer & everyone should help.

C.J.N., Luganville, Vanuatu

Recommended by 6 people

Added: Saturday, 19 December, 2009, 11:44 GMT 11:44 UK

To people saying the real problem is overpopulation, how do you intend to solve it?
The issues are the same. In the end people will have to own responsibility and no longer rely on dumb politicians. World leaders have failed, now its up to us. Capitalism has to go, governments have to go and we need to collectivise, instead of the self interest individualism like Friends of the Earth and Greenpeace, we have to form a political system of common ownership and mutual consensus.

Capitalism Sucks, Lancaster

Recommended by 2 people

Added: Saturday, 19 December, 2009, 12:41 GMT 12:41 UK

I think it’s ridiculous. Climate science is nonsense compared to proper sciences. There is no proper scientific proof that man is significantly affecting the climate, and there is major evidence that he isn’t. Even if the warmists are right, human development isn’t just going to stop because the planet gets a bit hotter – that’s not how life works. The amount of political spin on this and the secrecy involved are very suspicious. I think the whole thing is a scam.

Mark

Recommended by 12 people

Added: Saturday, 19 December, 2009, 13:05 GMT 13:05 UK

Our place is out there in the cosmic space.
Lunatic, fantastic?
Yes, it is today.
But getting rid of limitations (e.g. dogmas) all will change at once.
There are no alternatives.
Unless we kill/eat each other…

Tibor TK, Neuss

Recommended by 1 person

Added: Saturday, 19 December, 2009, 22:37 GMT 22:37 UK

Of course the world isn’t getting hotter. Of course we’re not threatened with the risk of flooding all of our coasts. That’s why New Orleans was bone dry as was the whole of Cumbria. Let’s not forget all the other areas which suffer increased flooding as well as the truly immense lake that has appeared in Nepal that used to be a glacier.

The world is warming, we are accelerating it and it will bring catastrophic disasters and even wars in the next 50 years.

It’s already too late.

T, Derby

Recommended by 5 people

Added: Saturday, 19 December, 2009, 05:08 GMT 05:08 UK

The scientific evidence that this summit is based upon has now been questioned. No deal should be agreed until the true facts are agreed. No political spin, ideals or showmanship should be considered. Clean air is one thing, global warming or climate change is another. The UK government and its agencies are prime suspects in this conspiricy to fleece everyone of yet more tax for idealistic and unworkable ends.

John Wurrows, Nottingham

Recommended by 199 people

dded: Saturday, 19 December, 2009, 07:59 GMT 07:59 UKThe very idea that humankind can control the world temperature, over even a day let alone a decade, is simply breathtaking! It really is time that this global warming bandwagon stops.

Richard Elliott, Shrewsbury

Recommended by 172 people

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